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We need a theme for the 04 October 2022 event. Anyone want to present? Anyone with a theme? You have a few hours to come forward before it's command decision time.
I still like the 'two wines' idea.
Ok, command decision time. Two wines, same vintage is the theme. Sure, some of us did that already, but you have many wines in your cellar with the same vintage so don't give me a hard time.
Got that? Two bottles of wine (red or white) but they are to be the same vintage.
The email reminder has been issued.
By same vintage do you mean same wine, different year?
Nope. Just same year.
I did not say it's a vertical. That would be the same wine, different years.
I suppose for such a comparison that "same year, two bottles" would imply "same type of blend, varietal, etc." also. For example, a Rhone blend from 2018 (California) and and actual (possibly southern) Rhone blend from Rhone (or Australia, or?).
It can be anything you wish, a white and a red, two reds, two Bordeaux-style blends, etc. Different wine regions would be interesting, say a Cabernet Sauvignon from CA and WA from the same vintage.
@KCRunForWine , we did something similar on Sept. 6. You can go back to here to see what people tasted.
Don't overthink it. If you want to open a bottle of Myriad CS, and just enjoy it, that is never a bad idea.i
I like that idea.
I may open 2 "cheap" (under $20) and compare them.
I might end up pouring them down the drain but better than destroying my palate.
So, we are set. Start looking for your two bottles. Sandra wants me to focus on the 2018 vintage for some reason.
A darned good year for most grapes in most California growing regions. I'll encourage somebody else to comment on the 2018 vintage in other areas.
Thought I would open my under $20 wine to practice for tomorrow;;;
Practice failed.
Considering option B
The truth is its own justification, Kathleen.
It does seem to have a clever label, though.
That’s a weird blend too.
I call it eau de toilet ...
I am surprised that Vivino gave it a 4.1 rating - I am starting to trust them less and less.
Re: Vivino: It could be that bots (AI) or non-person memberships are loading the scores. We have a similar scoring display for all products of the BC Liquor Stores (Government) as do some of the private liquor shops. These seem suspiciously high or low at times; par example, you often get highly reputable French Bordeaux Cru Classee being run down to 2 stars (200 dollar plus bottles) and some obvious plonk, or even just serviceable, decent 20 dollar wine, ballooning to 4 stars plus (even 5). Even when we recognize hype, something is happening here that smacks of something monetized or commercial. And of course, Vivino is a commercial enterprise that is highly monetized on the net. Still, if you seek out a critic who seems to dovetail well with your own palate or experience, you might be OK. That's generally my own strategy.
Thank you Steve for your advice -- Greatly appreciated
I’ve selected our two wines for tonight.
2 X 2014 Palisades vineyard Petite Sirahs made by two different winemakers both of whom are renowned for their Zinfandels: Mike Officer (Carlisle) and Joel Peterson (Once & Future)
Here are the 2 wines Kathleen brought over. For dinner its Lamb or Chicken Fajita's. Kathleen also brought over the Upshot that she didn't enjoy!
Our two bottles are in decant mode. Molly is watching to ensure nobody sneaks an extra taste.
@SallieBob - Are you also bringing a 2016 or a 2019 bottle to the table? The theme is 'same vintage'. The food looks nice.
@EMark - those two Petite Sirahs look like good comparables, different wineries yet the same vineyard. I wonder which won you'll enjoy the most?
Oh, here's a nice picture of 'Baby Gray', one of the feral cats I feed on Tuesdays. He and his brother Horacio are so full of love and affection.
I thought that the information included Historic Vineyard Society Palisades Vineyard registry was interesting.
Palisades Vineyard is located off of Palisades Road directly below the high cliffs of the Palisades in a narrow riparian canyon one mile north of the town of Calistoga.
The oldest vines on the property (Block 11) were planted in 1968 by Frank Barberis. This 1.6-acre block of Petite Sirah grafted on St. George rootstock replaced Petit Sirah vines planted by his father (see photo of original vines). Frank replanted additional blocks to Petite Sirah in the early 1970s. Today, 11.3 acres of the old vine, head trained Petite Sirah are dry farmed in the tradition of the original farm.
In addition to Petite Sirah, Palisades Vineyard is planted to Petit Verdot (0.9 acres), Cabernet Sauvignon (4.2 acres), Cabernet Franc (0.4 acres) and Chenin Blanc (0.5 acres). The Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc and Chenin Blanc were planted between 2015 and 2018 by the current owners. The Cabernet Sauvignon was field grafted from budwood with historical roots in Napa Valley (Eisele and Inglenook). All of the new vines were grafted onto St. George and 110R rootstock. Adhering to the historic nature of the vineyard, all of the new vines are head trained and planted on an 8’ x 8’ grid. The owners’ intent is to dry farm these vines once they have been established.
Vineyards have been planted on the property since at least 1878 when it was owned by James Horn, an immigrant from Scotland. A property deed signed by Horn mentions his vineyard along the road that bisects the property. In 1907 the property was purchased by Domenico Barberis, a recent immigrant from Liguria, Italy. Domenico and his wife Gilda planted the farm to grapes and plums and their family farmed the property until the early 1990s. According to the family, Petite Sirah has been the dominant grape on the property since the vineyards were first developed by Domenico, although the family grew other varietals as well. In approximately 1915, Domenico built a winery on the site (see photo) and bonded it as Bonded Winery No. 118. Domenico maintained his bonded status until 1932, losing it 10 months before the end of Prohibition. The old winery still stands. The Barberis family farmed the property until the early 1990s. From 1992 until 2015 the property was owned by Anne Carver and Denis Sutro who made wine from their Petite Sirah grapes under the Carver Sutro label.
Wineries that source grapes from Palisades Vineyard include:
Katleen brought the wines. She (being a theme follower) said it's 2 Cabernets so that works). Both are good but the consensus is the Oberon is the better of the 2.
I need to work on her some more. The retired life has affected her rationalization mode. It's one of those things that if you catch it early, it can be attenuated to the point of non-existence. Let it go, and we end up with any wine you feel like opening at the moment. Yes, that extreme.
Nice cab. Tobacco, dark fruit, earthy. I paired it with a shrimp cocktail. I’m a rule breaker :-) I’ll be doing chores around the house tonight.
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And you are definitely drinking good wine tonight, Lynn.