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Funny about the years. I have a 2015 French bottle and a 2016 American bottle. I bet those are both very nice. I did try mine a few minutes ago (quality check you see). Fantastic wines, both of them. Easy 4 bottle assessments.
Those are excellent choices... the Siduri I have had before and can attest to its quality, and you cannot go wrong with Bichot, and Savigny-les-Beaune is a great go-to for those who know the price-to-quality equation as I know you must. Look forward to some reviews once the wine meet the lips.
I wonder where Paul is? Do we expect anyone else to participate, like Vino Vino?
The bratwurst is cooking very nicely. I hope they pair well with the two Pinots.
So, far, I would say all of the wines chosen are perfect for such an event (love the sausages, and it is getting close to supper time here). I will add the second review in about 15 minutes or so.
I'm right here Al - see the pic above. Just waiting on Rick.
Here goes for the Pernand-Vergelesses:
Presentation in the glass is medium-dark red (cherry), and indeed, cherry and strawberry notes predominate on the nose with a hint of cream. Entry coincides with expectation; mouth-feel is soft but lush with balanced and cleaning acidity. Tannins are light and very pleasant suggesting perfect integration. Cherry and other red suit flavours abound and finish is quite long. A fine wine for the price in today's market. 4 cups or 91.
Ok, it's after 7 PM ET here in Virginia and I'm eating the brats and sauerkraut too. Do you think the kraut is affecting my taste buds? I really like both wines. They have some strawberry and perhaps other berries.
Both are easy 4 bottle assessed wines. I might note that the 2016 Beaux Freres Pinot Noir is about twice the retail price of the 2015 Gevrey-Chambertin Pinot Noir. If money were tight, I would opt for the Burgundy bottle.
Sorry folks, tonight's dinner menu just did not sound like it would work with Pinot Noir.
In an effort to try to play, I am going with a white Burg
Les Clos is the best IMHO. No need to apologize, but certainly, it ain't PN.
Decanting both - big difference in color and nose. Darker in the Siduri - more red raspberry in the Bichot.
So EMark, do you like this Chablis?
The North American versions (I tried to get something comparable to the wines here but from France) are denser and have, therefore, and not surprisingly, a bit more body. However, there is a purity issue... this seems to crop up with Bordeaux style wines as well. However, having said this, the French PN I chose seems to match the OR wine pretty closely - with the exception that, there is a bit more acidity in the French expression of the grape. Love both, though. PB, your palate must be pretty close to mine...
I found more acidity in my Oregon wine, but actually I preferred the Burgundy bottle because of that.
I just heard from Lynn; she was at a work-related happy hour and just got home. She had not seen my invite to come over and taste through the wines. Oh well. I'm on my own with two kitties and the World Series game. Maybe I should light a fire and enjoy the evening with wine and cats. Sandra won't be home for a few hours.
Paul - Big difference? Mine were rather similar.
Paul here - Here's the Siduri at a glance -
Plenty of pop with this one. A melange of red and dark berry fruits, spice, clove with bountiful minerality and acidity. A short edge of cola sneaks out on the end to help put out a long lasting aftertaste that really satisfies. Very, very good wine - Siduri at best - 92+ =
Hi Rick here - as to the Siduri...I found mulberry and a meld of dark berries the were non-defineable as to type. The tannins were well balanced along with the acidity. Basicly a winr I would drink in copious amounts anytime.
think if they were OR versus France they are pretty similar -excepting some of the remarks to this point.
Oh the NATS got the first run in game six!
Might be getting to the PUI (so will be watching with interest, but probably posting with reservation).
Rick, why don’t you join the wine forum? Your posts are always welcome.
He'll come. Be patient.
Paul again - The Savigny is great. A little less in presence, but smooth as silk. This mostly red berry fruits on the nose and the palate and as it warms it smooths out more. Cherries, blue berries, plum with dirt and a tint of spice. Not much on the aftertaste, but this is a food wine - duck, goose - so it doesn't have, it just needs to to lead to the next bite. Solid 91 =
Not surprised. I'll seek it out.
Rick is back with the Savigny.. then nose
found sour cherries--think the the canned cherries your mom bought to make a cherry pie. the taste reflected the cherries along with a bright, lightness with a nice tannin to acid balance. There wasn't a big finish, but it was delicate with a slight earthiness.
Of course, the wine Rick refers to is a lighter wine but very tasty. The NA wines we chose seem denser by almost every comment so far.
Yes they were, but in all due respect too either, they were both very good inrespect to what they were trying to achieve - which was to make the best wine for grapes they had to work with. For the money I'd say the Siduri was the best buy, but the Savigny would be the best for food.
Can't wait for the Pinot Envy on Sat night at the Park falls Wine Club.
I want to do Cabby next - I don't care where it comes from.
Maybe I should join you on Saturday.